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Homemade Rocker Repair

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#1 ·
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Having the same problem as many of our trucks, my rockers were starting to rot out. I didn't notice it until the rust had already penetrated and made a few holes on both sides, passenger much worse. I knew I had to do something. After quite a bit of reading and research, I decided to do a DIY job, with the hope it will last a few years at minimum. I ran my plans by a friend who worked in a body shop and he said it was rather unorthodox, but would probably work how I expected. So, let's do it.

The plan was to use an angle grinder to take off most of the paint and as much rust as I could. I was able to get all exterior rust removed. For the inside, that was handled in step 1, pictures below. I used Eastwood Internal Frame Coating to spray soak the inside of the rockers first. I did 2 coats to make sure it got into every little nook and crevice. The can come with a flexible 24" hose with a conical spray head, so it sprays a nice fine mist in all directions. I stuck the extension in each of the rocker drain points and sprayed until it was coming out, while pulling slowly from front to back. 2 days, 2 coats.


Step 2 - Removing paint and rust. This is part that freaked me out the most. But it had to be done.



Step 3 - Remove burrs, wipe and clean - The holes had some sharp edges, so I wanted to smooth them out a bit, and in the process I wound up opening the hole even more because the metal was so weak. Better to do it now than have it fail later.


Step 4 - Fill the void. I used Great Stuff Big Gap Filler. With no signs of rust down the rocker towards the front, I concentrated on the back only with the foam. I used a flexible drinking straw taped to the end of the Great Stuff nozzle for a reach of almost 24". I also used two straws, as the first popped off and is now embedded in the foam, inside my rocker. Next straw got more tape and I also held it until too popped, but thankfully not inside the rocker. By that point, the regular nozzle was long enough to get the last few inches. The can says to fill no more than 50%. I filled about 75% of the void, knowing there was plenty of room to expand going up. There was a glob of foam hanging out of the hole when it cured. I used a steak knife to cut it off and then sanded it down. Cure time is 8 hours. I wound up waiting until the next day.


Note - Use gloves with Great Stuff. If it gets on your hands, it sucks to get off. Acetone and Lava soap helped, but my hands were still tacky and dirty looking for two days.

Step 5 - Final sanding and clean wipe and prep. I used a rag with a 15% IPA solution to remove dust in between grinding and sanding. Then a metal brush to remove any lint from the rag. I used sandpaper in the tight areas as well.

Step 6 - Patch the hole. I applied POR-15 putty over the sanded foam of the damaged areas with a small brush. Gloves are also a must here, POR-15 will stain your skin for days. I then put down a layer of POR-15 fiberglass mesh sheet, and applied more POR-15 putty over that while smoothing it out. That had to dry for almost 2 hours. I then applied another light coat with a brush. I only used the fiber sheet over the big hole. The other holes were small enough to be ok with the foam behind it and a double coating of the POR-15 brushed over to fill them in.


Step 7 - I then taped off a bigger area with plastic bags to keep overspray off the rest of the truck. The final product was Rustoleum Truck Bed Liner rattle can. I did a light coat all over and let it sit for 15-20 minutes, then I repeated that 3 more times. I made sure it went up high enough to cover the paint removed, but not high or thick enough to get in the way of the door closing. I wanted to make sure any water from the door would hit the bedliner and roll off, and not get stuck in the jam area.

The loose ends of the fiber mesh were trimmed and heated down smooth after it all cured.

This is the line on the inside of the jam. Not perfect, but straight enough and no one ever see it anyway.

This is the final look. I can't tell unless I really look for it, and the liner blends as well, hard to see. Overall I think it's damn good for a first time body work project other than Plastidip.
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That was just my passenger side. Driver side wasn't as bad, but it did need to be done as well. I did the Driver side a few weeks later.

Things I wish I knew... Great Stuff is a one time use product. So I had to go out and get a 2nd can for the driver side. Wear better gloves, they kept ripping.

Things to share - I used a 3M 36 grit wheel to do most of the rust removal, and a 120 grit wheel for the rest of the paint scuffing, along with 120 grit sandpaper in a block. This would have been easier if on a lift, but I just laid on the ground. Doing this on a 90 degree day sucks. It was hot, and a few times I had to stop grinding because of the sun.

Final thoughts - Not as difficult, but not as easy..if that makes any sense. I have zero bodywork experience, so I took my time and skipped a softball team cookout so I wouldn't be rushed to finish. I'm glad it's done, and if it lasts 5 years before it shows any signs of failing, I'll be happy as I don't plan on having the truck in 5 years. Next owner can't complain if he has to replace the rockers completely on a 15 year old truck. I did what I could to keep them intact and keep it not looking like total crap IMO. Being a black truck also helps keep it out of view.

Now.....the waiting game begins. The wheels are in my shed already, tires being ordered tomorrow... If those don't get here in time, I might just do the next part of clean up, a full paint correction and detailing with Menzerna and Wolfgang products. I'll be using a heavy cut to remove some bad marks in a few areas, and then moderate cut all over, along with a final polish and sealant. I might also put a wax on top of the sealant. I'm also in the process of removing the Plastidip from my truck. It did it's job and I like the look it gave me, but I'm going to be replacing it with a better looking high gloss enamel on the bumper and moldings. The Plastidip has to go before the detail, as I don't want stuff that removes Plastidip running down my freshly detailed paint.

A long day, a long weekend, and a sore head and back from laying on the ground. But nothing a fat plate of steak tips and fresh homebrewed IPA can't fix.
 
#6 ·
^^^ Guess you didn't read step one. The insides of the rockers were treated, with a known good product to prevent rust from spreading any further. And I gave it two coats, so I'm pretty sure it's going to be just fine for at least 5 years, which is all I was looking for. But thanks for the A+.
 
#8 ·
So you were able to complete the whole process in a weekend? Thinking I should just do this to make it last me a couple years as well until I'm ready to buy a new one... Try to slow it anyway like you say.
 
#10 ·
03pewternblack said:
So you were able to complete the whole process in a weekend? Thinking I should just do this to make it last me a couple years as well until I'm ready to buy a new one... Try to slow it anyway like you say.
Did I do it in one weekend? No. Could it be done? Yes.. I just had limited time each of two weekends. I did the frame spray paint a week or two before this work as well, so technically 3 weekends total time, with maybe an extra week in there. I honestly can't remember every last second, but it could be a weekend job if you had everything lined up..but it would be a busy weekend for sure..
 
#11 ·
I have to say that turned out pretty good. I am in the same boat with my rocker panels and I am pretty green when it comes to that kind of work and I can't stand looking at it anymore so I'm going to be spending a lot of money to get it professionally done. My truck belonged to my dad and bought it when he died and plan on having it a long time and fix it up so it has to be done... but good job on your job and I'm sure it felt good to get that taken care of.
 
#13 ·
zchrisz said:
a lot of work. but it wont last, they are rotting from the inside out... A+ for effort though.
not be a douche, but I agree. Treated or not with Por15.. Never ever user expanding foam for a repair like this. It will break down in about a year. More so in the new England winters. I may live in Texas, but I grew up in RI. Also expanding foam will hold water over time, making the original issue much worse. In 12 months when you power wash that, it'll all fall out.

do not use this method to repair your rotted rockers.
 
#14 ·
I'm definitely interested to see how this holds up and applaud you for getting creative and solving a problem. Everything you did is much easier than welding for most of us, even more so since the rocker has a tough compound curve and thin gauge metal to work with.

I'm not saying it's right but if it lasts a number of years I can't really say it's wrong either, this process is probably pretty easy to repeat after you've done it once.
 
#15 ·
I just checked them over the weekend. Still fine, no rust, and I do use a power washer to clean the underbody of the truck. I also mentioned this was never a permanent fix, I only need about 3-5 years, and I had two body shops estimate at least 5-7 years.

So for a more permanent fix, this method is just fine, maybe use something other than a foam to fill the gap, but the process is just fine aside form that.

If someone wants to be 100% perfect, they can pay for it, and pay a lot more than I did.
 
#16 ·
Also to add, about the foam breaking down...it doesn't. I have used the same foam to fill gaps in a shed/storage box to keep critters out, and also when I had a new gas meter installed, there was a gap around the top. I filled the gap about 25%, let it expand, and it's been there just fine for 4 years, and my shed boxes even longer, and both have been directly exposed to the weather and sunlight.
 
#17 · (Edited by Moderator)
Nice work for someone who has never tried bodywork before! Really looks great. I'm interested in seeing how it holds up over time.

My opinion is that using a closed cell spray foam, like the great stuff brand you used, is that it will last at least the five years you want and not cause additional rusting. Closed cell foams create a vapor barrier, preventing them from absorbing moisture or water. I guess only time will tell for sure.

My only advice would be to use a minimal expanding foam over the "big gap filler". Oftentimes, these minimal expansion foams are labeled as "window and door". The maximum expansion foams can sometimes expand with so much force that they can actually cause damage. Although in this case you seemed to have a big enough space for it to push out of.

As for the cleanup of the stuff on your hands, it's really nasty, sticky stuff. I have used the great stuff brand cleaning wipes I found at the hardware store and they are amazing. I have even seen wet foam removed from a jacket with them.

Another thing to consider is getting a foam gun (picture below). These are great and the best part is that the unused spray doesn't go to waste. Great to have around the house for the random times you may need it.
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#19 ·
I just did the other day when washing and checking the underbody. It's still as solid as it was after it cured. The foam that I used on my house by my gas meter, exposed to sunlight all morning, rain, snow, freezing rain and ice....still solid with no shrinking and it's been there for a few years.