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My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby mcmahonm [OP] » Mar 04 2012, 1:15am

Good evening folks, and thanks for such a great site. I have need some help, looking for opinions. My wife and I have been looking a travel trailers and she has found the one we love :) We have a tent trailer and its an easy tow, but with the new truck she wants something bigger. so here is my setup and the trailer weight (trailer has been weighed)

2011 GMC sierra 1500 crew cab with 4.8l and 3.42 gears, with tow package and locking rear differential

Trailer - 2012 KZ Spree 281BHS - weight of 5288lbs

Trailer is under the weight of 5500lbs from the manual will have weight distribution and sway control hitch installed.

Am I to close to the limit for towing on this truck

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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby adams99z71 » Mar 04 2012, 2:30am

yeah thats a little too much weight for that motor with those gears.
its kinda like you telling me you can lift 500lbs then me asking you to run a mile with 450lbs.
if you re-geared to say 3:73 or 4:10 you would be a lot better off.
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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby BuxCamper » Mar 04 2012, 2:39am

Having towed a 4500 lb trailer with a 4.2L Envoy you're probably not going to be super happy with that setup. I haven't looked up the ratings for your engine / rear ration combination. The owners manual will give you good guidance. All the engine/gearing combinations and tow capacities are listed.
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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby mcmahonm [OP] » Mar 04 2012, 3:34am

beginning to look at 4500lbs as the limit for dry weight of trailers
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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby afrancis73 » Mar 04 2012, 4:45am

I was almost exactly where you are 2 years ago, I can tell you that your truck will have her hands full. By no means am I saying it can't do it, but I can say your going to want to stay within a couple hours from home. Always look at the bright side, in a year or so (with enough complaining) your wife will let you upgrade...maybe...I know mine did.

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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby Carmelsteve » Mar 04 2012, 7:09am

Even if that were the ACTUAL weight you were going to tow, you'd be white-knuckling it the whole way. Trouble is, trailer manufactrers really try to minimize the weight of their trailers to sell them to a broader clintelle. My 33 ft. Coachmen states a weight of 5700 pounds on the sticker. It weighs closer to 6500 pounds with full propane tanks, 2 batteries, and all other tanks empty. Add another with 700 pounds with full tanks. Manufactures state their base weight on the trailer totally stripped without any options as above.
I tow mine with a 6.2 liter 1500 with the NHT Max Tow Package and I honestly feel it's barely enough. There's plenty of engine, but the suspension is tasked during any moderate or high winds while towing. I have towed it into the Sierras a couple of times, and I had to really take it pretty slow.
I would definitely look at something shorter and lighter.
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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby mcmahonm [OP] » Mar 04 2012, 1:38pm

Thanks guys, I appreciate the guidance trying to talk the wife off the ledge is harder than me, I the one who has to drive the beast fully loaded. I want to be safe and not burn my truck out on year 1 :)
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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby 11 Silverado » Mar 04 2012, 1:58pm

I am not sure about the Sierra, but the Silverado owner's manual for the 2011 crew cab 4.8 2wd only lists ether a 3.23, or a 3.73 rear end available. The tow capacities for the 3.23 is 4,700 lbs, and the 3.73 is 6,700 lbs. It would seem like you are pushing the limit with a trailer with a dry weight of about 5300 lbs. Add the weight of water, food, and other stuff, and you would probably be close to 6000 lbs. I would look for something in the 4000 lb weight or less. It would really put a strain on the truck to tow what you were planning to. The safety and performance would not be good.
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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby mcmahonm [OP] » Mar 04 2012, 2:30pm

Well with renewed optimism I am back to the Toronto RV show, with a new plan. Lighter and smaller, spend most of the night looking at models from 4000 to 4600lbs dry (these are factory weight stickers with options). This should give me the margin I want. Guys thanks for the help and answering me, Do not want to make the $20,000.00 mistake and have a large tranny bill to go with it.
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Re: My truck and a 31 foot Travel Trailer

Postby scottja » Mar 04 2012, 3:14pm

just a thought look for a fifth wheel trailer in that weight range. I'm not sure if they make them but I would look into it they are a lot safer to pull.
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