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Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for me?

Postby kleahy [OP] » Jun 22 2011, 7:09pm

We purchased a Coleman 270BH travel trailer earlier this month. It is 28' long and weighs about 4,700 lbs. Was optimistic that our Chevy Traverse could handle the load as it is rated to tow 5,200 lbs, but I am thinking that I might need to upgrade the tow vehicle so I won't have to worry about cargo weight. I am new to towing and need some help. I'm looking at various Silverado Crew Cab models and have accepted the fact that I will need to give up the 3rd row of seats as I don't think I can afford the Tahoe or Suburban.

I think the Silverado 1500 should suit my needs. But what towing package should I be looking at? I live in Florida now and see they come with a Florida accessory package which includes towing components, but is this enough? Which rear differential gear ratio should I get and what are the differences? Do I need to consider the MAX trailering pack in the event we someday want to upgrade our trailer to a bigger one?

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!

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Postby Newmy26 » Jun 22 2011, 11:15pm

Generally a silverado with a 5.3 should do the trick. The Florida package you are talking about probably has the same components of the normal trailering package. It should have tow/haul on the stalk and be wired for the trailer.

As far as towing, the 3.73 rear end is also sufficient for a trailer around 5000 lbs. Now when you talk about upgrading, if you want to upgrade over 7500 or 8000 lbs, then you are gonna need a whole new truck, but the trailering package itself isn't going to make much of a difference with a half ton truck. This is what I've experienced, but i am sure some other folks may have their two cents. Best of luck!
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Re: Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for

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Re: Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for

Postby uneasyrider » Jun 23 2011, 12:37am

Your best bang for the buck will be in a Z60 packaged crew cab. I live in Florida too and when you start to trailer in the mountains on vacation you will want the 5.3 liter which is a great engine. This will tow much more than you need without costing you extra fuel when you are not trailering and that's how you want it.

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Re: Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for

Postby EKinMN » Jun 23 2011, 1:12am

All the guys have good suggestions. Sorry if this is a bit off topic....
Definitely do not tow that much with the Traverse. I have an Acadia, and it may say 5200, but that 3.6L V6 is working hard enough just to move the car. Towing with the Lambda platform is not fun.
My 2010 GMC with the 5.3 does great towing about 5,000 fully loaded (boat and gear).
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Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for me?

Postby zombiehunr » Jun 23 2011, 1:32am

Just got back from a trip where I towed 8500lbs no problem with a 5.3 engine I was hesitant but it hardly knew it was there on the highway
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Re: Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for

Postby 2011 GMC Crew » Jun 23 2011, 1:40am

I would agree with the recommendations above.
#1 Your trailer has a "dry weight" of 4700 lbs. Once you fill it with your stuff, it will be much higher and will easily exceed your 5200 lb rating :shock: .
#2 The general rule seems to be towing at or under 75% of your tow vehicle rating. Even empty, you would be well above that.

The Crew Cab mentioned above with the Regional Value Package is rated to tow 9600 lbs. 75% of that is 7200 lbs. That means you can pack 2500 lbs of water, food,clothes, camping gear, bikes, etc!!! (Ok, maybe that's too much stuff. You are supposed to be roughing it.)

For your trailer, that 1500 Crew would be great. As far as buying bigger in the future, the next step up would probably be a 5th Wheel. If that is in your plans, you may as well get a 2500HD Duramax now...

I just purchased a 1500 Crew with that package and I love it! It comes with the 5.3l, 6 speed tranny, HD trailering package, 20" Wheels, etc. It is loaded for the price!
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Re: Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for

Postby kleahy [OP] » Jun 23 2011, 11:47am

Thanks for all of the great suggestions! I really appreciate it! As for Axle ratios, the 5.3L V8 says it comes with 3.42 vs. 3.73, which is available with the 4.3L V6, 4.8L V8 and the 6.2L V8. What do the axle ratios mean? Is higher better for towing??

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Re: Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for

Postby uneasyrider » Jun 23 2011, 12:51pm

kleahy wrote:Thanks for all of the great suggestions! I really appreciate it! As for Axle ratios, the 5.3L V8 says it comes with 3.42 vs. 3.73, which is available with the 4.3L V6, 4.8L V8 and the 6.2L V8. What do the axle ratios mean? Is higher better for towing??

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Compare it to a bicycle with 3 gears in the front and 6 in the rear. Where would you want to fix the rear end of the bike if you could only have one of those 6 gears? If you were pulling your kid in a trailer you would want a higher ratio than if you were solo going down hill. Change that to 6 gears in the front and Lance Armstrong on the seat and any of the middle gears work well.

With the dramatic increase in engine horsepower and torque in the last 20 years it's not that much of a concern anymore and you no longer need the extremes unless you are pushing it to the limits or have huge wheels and tires, they will both work fine.
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Re: Towing a 4,700 lb trailer - which Silverado is best for

Postby kleahy [OP] » Jun 23 2011, 1:21pm

Great, thanks a lot!!
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