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Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby tcfulmer [OP] » Apr 01 2012, 4:05pm

I currently own a 2009 Silverado 1500 crew cab 4x4 with 5.3L, 6-speed and 3.42 rear end. This is my second Silverado. Both have been 5.3L gassers. I also own a 22' travel travel trailer with a 6500 lb gross weight and am looking to upgrade the trailer to a 32' with 8800 lb gross weight. I currently average 550 miles per month on my truck and that includes taking 400-1000 mile camping trips during the summer months. A new Silverado 2500 HD is what I'm looking for but not having experience with diesels I'm not sure if I should be looking at the 6.0L gas or a duramax. I would like to get opinions from those who know diesels.

This would be my commuter as well. My one way distance to work is 4.5 miles. I have been told that diesels need to be run longer distances than this on a consistent basis. Is this true? On most days my 5.3L just gets up to temperature before I get to work. I'm in the Seattle area so there isn' much in the way of extreme cold or heat. I want to be sure that if I went with a duramax that I'm not setting myself up for problems with the short running times. Is there anything else I should be concerned with because of this kind of usage?
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby MLeBlanc » Apr 01 2012, 4:09pm

with the DMax you'll get the allison Transmison which in my opinion is the deciding factor. Ive got an L with the allison and won't ever own another tranny.
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby 07BlackOps » Apr 01 2012, 4:11pm

Well both vehicles have an upside and a down side. The diesel will give you better fuel economy towing and regular commuting then a gas can even think about providing. The downside to diesel is the ownership cost is a little higher, with diesel being expensive and the maintenance on diesels is expensive. Now for the gas, the down side with a 6.0L your gonna get about 7-10mpg highway towing a trailer and as for daily commuting it will get 13-17mpg all day long if you baby it. Oh and your rear end gear ratio will play a big part in that. Because you tow a trailer youre going to want 4.10 gears, 3.73 and 3.42s are highway gears, not the best for towing!
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby johndeere9203 » Apr 01 2012, 4:27pm

i bought the 2500HD with the 6.0 because i only drive 5 miles to work and that is really hard on a diesel..... they are meant to be worked! and also i heard alot of bad story's about the dmax's having problems and i have no idea how to work on a diesel. i get 10mpg city and 13 highway from my 6.0!
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby 07BlackOps » Apr 01 2012, 4:32pm

The Duramax is a far more reliable diesel then any other "light" duty diesel. They will give you better then 10/13 youre receiving now. But when doing a long road trip in your gas motor im sure youll get with a trailer around 7-9mpg. Im going to be pulling my moms boyfriends camper its a 32' aluminum camper and weighs probably #8000 and #10000 pounds and ill probably average 7-9mpg. So
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby tcfulmer [OP] » Apr 02 2012, 3:35pm

What are the oil change intervals for both standard and synthetic oils? Since I am using the oil life monitor and not going by the 3000 miles my dealer recommends, I'm only doing oil changes about every 10-11 months since I drive it so little. My estimation is that I'm going about 400 miles per month except for in the summer when we are camping.

I've heard of having to regen the dpf. How often does that need to happen?
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby 08AllTerrain » Apr 02 2012, 8:18pm

If i were you i would look into a 2007 Classic Chevy or GMC duramax. I owned one before my current 2010 with the 6.0 and it blew everything away. I hauled my buddies 27ft Formula bowrider down to Lake of the Ozarks and i got 13.5 pulling with it. The LBZ is a superior motor and is very reliable, i love the new LMLs and the LMMs to but i never got the results like the LBZ did. The 6.0 is a great motor to have in your situation for your little daily commute, its not a great city goer as i get about 12.7 with my 20s, larger tires and torsion bars being cranked. But they do pull better compared to other makes gas motors. They are superior to the new 6.2 ford puts out and the new hemi in dodge. Me and my friends take my truck all the time to the Ozarks cause the 6.0 pulls better. But its never gonna get you the power results like the duramax will, you cant beat how they will pull. The new LMLs pull great and they can move, ive wanted to get one but im holding out to see what the new body style will bring and get a denali hd. Best of luck to your decision.
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby SHNOOL » Apr 02 2012, 11:45pm

10000# will yeild you 9mpg highway with mountains. Empty youll get 13.5 this is with 4:10 gears. The Duramax and allison are better for sure but you best look at the mpg versus initial cost including the difference in price per gallon of each. fir me itd take 10 years to make back the cost diff @ 10k miles a year
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby starspangled6.0 » Apr 02 2012, 11:50pm

tcfulmer wrote:What are the oil change intervals for both standard and synthetic oils? Since I am using the oil life monitor and not going by the 3000 miles my dealer recommends, I'm only doing oil changes about every 10-11 months since I drive it so little. My estimation is that I'm going about 400 miles per month except for in the summer when we are camping.

I've heard of having to regen the dpf. How often does that need to happen?



AMSOIL makes an oil guaranteed to 25,000 miles\1 year. That's for a gas engine... I don't know what they offer for diesel, though.



It sounds like the 6.0 is your best bet. You have a very short commute, and what you tow is well within the range of a 6.0. If you've got the money (I think the Duramax is a $7500 option), get the diesel. But I think in your case, all you need is the 6.0. Both engines will run forever, as will the transmissions.
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Re: Want to get a 2500 HD, question is gas or diesel?

Postby 08AllTerrain » Apr 03 2012, 3:19am

I agree here, if youve got the money for a duramax but dont need buy a nicer truck with the 6.0. I love my LTZ and the 6.0 never quits and the only thing ive had to replace was one of my speakers cause it had a fault in it. I havent had any problems with the motor or tranny. I change the oil about every 3000 miles. It will last longer but i change it then. But like i said find a nice truck with the 6.0 and enjoy it. You will be comfortable while your towing and you will be confident when you pull to!
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