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2500 Denali ultimate payload - mines 1426!?

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Hi all - I bought the 2500 Denali ultimate about a little more than a month ago. The purpose for it is to tow a Brinkley i235(travel trailer), which is does no problem - we’re upgrading the RV to a Brinkley 2680 - a 30’ fifth wheel that weighs 10k or so dry and 14k or so loaded up. Well under the 18k towing capacity. My problem is my payload sticker says 1426 pounds - this seems extremely low to me for a 2500. Especially when GMC advertises it as close to 3k pounds payload and I’ve seen the exact same truck with right around 3k payload. The hitch weight of the Brinkley is more than entire payload on sticker

is it possible this is a mis printed sticker or could I somehow have gotten a 2500hd truck with 50% of the advertised payload?

for what’s its worth, this truck was originally sold in Canada so the stickers look a bit different. Pic below

*edited for more context of when I bought the truck to tow the RV I had at the time
 
#2 ·
It isn't likely GM misprinted that.

It will be based on whatever options the truck was built with and the cab & bed length. I think that QR code is the list of RPO codes the truck was built with, you might decode that or see about getting a build sheet for the truck from a dealer, that might show something.
 
#4 ·
The highest payload number are very likely advertised for a regular cab gas truck. Not a fully loaded crew cab diesel. Having said that, your sticker sounds about right for your setup.

The 2500 diesels always suffer on payload. For serious towing a 3500 is always best. Will get you the higher ratings across the board. I don’t recall offhand but if I recall, my 15 2500 high country, crew cab short bed, has a payload of around 1400lbs as well, maybe a touch less. Bumper pull rating 13k and 5th wheel 18k. So your numbers line up pretty closely to what a loaded 2500 diesel would be.
 
#6 ·
I see you are wearing flip flops. That will help save some weight and help the max payload.
It also will take away your man card further helping with weight reduction.

If the purpose of the truck was to tow, shouldn't you have looked at the sticker before making a large purchase?
 
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My 2015 1500 has an 1774lb payload rating
 
#10 ·
My 2015 1500 has an 1850lb payload rating
My 2015 has a 1670 lb payload rating, but unfortunately GM really fudges the half ton towing capacity.
In the real world, the sweet spot is no more than 5000 or 6000 pounds.
 
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From what I understand, the tongue weight rating is the maximum load the hitch, receiver, and the truck's frame are designed to support as a downward force at the hitch point.

So while the hitch, receiver and truck's frame can support up to 1770 lbs you still need to go by the max payload rating which includes everything in the cab including passengers, everything in the bed and the tongue weight.

Kinda like the tie down hooks I just put in the bed of my truck. They can support 1000 lbs but the bedside can only support up to about 250lbs. So while the hooks might not break holding a 800 pound load, the sides of my bed might pull out if the load shifts.
 
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10,000-LB GVWR AND UNDER SPECIFICATIONS MODEL CAB BED MAX GVWR (LBS)1 MAX GCWR (LBS)2 MAX CONVENTIONAL TRAILER WEIGHT RATING (LBS)3 MAX FIFTH-WHEEL TRAILER WEIGHT RATING (LBS)3 MAX GOOSENECK TRAILER WEIGHT RATING (LBS)3 MAX PAYLOAD (LBS)4 6.6L DURAMAX TURBO DIESEL V8 ENGINE 2500 Double 4WD Standard 10,000 24,500 14,500 12,640 12,640 2,372 2500 Double 4WD Long 10,000 24,500 14,500 11,770 11,770 2,241 2500 Crew 2WD with 17" wheels Standard 10,000 24,500 14,500 13,950 13,950 2,568 2500 Crew 2WD with 18" or 20" wheels Standard 10,000 26,000 18,000 13,950 13,950 2,568 2500 Crew 4WD with 17" wheels Standard 10,000 24,500 14,500 11,740 11,740 2,237 2500 Crew 4WD with 18" or 20" wheels Standard 10,000 26,000 17,800 11,740 11,740 2,237 2500 Crew 2WD with 17" wheels Long 10,000 24,500 14,500 13,120 13,120 2,445 2500 Crew 2WD with 18" or 20" wheels Long 10,000 26,000 17,800 13,120 13,120 2,445 2500 Crew 4WD with 17" wheels Long 10,000 24,500 14,500 11,170 11,170 2,152 2500 Crew 4WD with 18" or 20" wheels Long 10,000 26,000 17,700 11,170 11,170 2,152

oh god, it screwed that formatting up hard

2024 trailering guide:

 
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it’s probably one of those de-rated ones. My nephew had a 2021 Silverado crew Duramax with a GCVR of 11,750 and I’m sure who’s payload was in the 3400 lb range. Up here that means a vehicle safety every year and at least a class 3 license to drive it. Basic license here is class 5 with vehicles less than 10,000 GVR.
 
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It doesn't matter. That's what the ttruck is rated for. If you are stopped and it's checked, that can be expensive, same w getting in an accident. Your insurance company will not be happy if you are towing way over what it's rated for.
 
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This is my 2025 Sierra Denali Ultimate 1500. There is something wonky with the OP truck.
As mentioned, manufacturers will produce “de-rated” trucks.
This is usually done for licensing and/or registration purposes keeping the GVRW under 10,000 LBS

GVWR - Curb Weight = Payload.

Your 1500 has a GVWR (Max truck can weigh) of 7200 LBS
Curb Weight (what just the truck weighs empty) = 5576 LBS

7200 - 5776 =1,424 LBS Payload


The OP has a 2500 series truck, but also that extremely heavy Duramax diesel.
Just about everything on a HD truck is heavier (frame, axles, brakes, etc)

His 2500 has a GVWR (Max truck can weigh) of 9900 LBS
Curb Weight (just the empty truck weight) - 8474 LBS ( much heavier than your 1500)

9900 - 8474 =1,426 LBS payload


Here is a sticker from another 2500 that is not de-rated (Not mine btw)

GVWR = 11350 LBS
Curb Weight = 8139 LBS

11350 - 8139 = 3,211 LBS payload

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Never heard of derated. What do they do to a derated truck and why?
 
#27 ·
I have no basis for this. But I assume the truck is functionally the same, but rated less. So, speaking of ability, id assume that truck has lots of headroom. It just doesn't on paper, or if you ever had to weigh in, or had an accident when overloaded, etc.

I could be wrong here, and might have different springs etc.

10k GVW in some states requires a commercial reg I think, which is likely why they had it as an option to begin with? Some states with inspections have a more stringent and expensive commercial inspection to boot.
 
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Never heard of derated. What do they do to a derated truck and why?
For licensing and/or registration purposes in some states.

I have no basis for this. But I assume the truck is functionally the same, but rated less. So, speaking of ability, id assume that truck has lots of headroom. It just doesn't on paper, or if you ever had to weigh in, or had an accident when overloaded, etc.

I could be wrong here, and might have different springs etc.

10k GVW in some states requires a commercial reg I think, which is likely why they had it as an option to begin with? Some states with inspections have a more stringent and expensive commercial inspection to boot.
I believe this is the exact reason they offer these options. It is all just on paper for legal registration purposes.

Right on Chevy site when configuring a 2500 HD truck, you have these options to select.
Of course buying one right off the lot, unless you pay attention to the sticker you may not even know you have a lowered GVWR truck.

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For licensing and/or registration purposes in some states.



I believe this is the exact reason they offer these options. It is all just on paper for legal registration purposes.

Right on Chevy site when configuring a 2500 HD truck, you have these options to select.
Of course buying one right off the lot, unless you pay attention to the sticker you may not even know you have a lowered GVWR truck.

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Right on, glad my logic isn't toast yet.

I do recall seeing the option when they first came out, I was intrigued cuz of emissions potential / avoiding hand on inspections. I actually thought they removed that option entirely (the GVW). Very interesting. Glad mine is 11k+ lol, not that I ever need it.
 
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Hi all - I bought the 2500 Denali ultimate about a little more than a month ago. The purpose for it is to tow a Brinkley i235(travel trailer), which is does no problem - we’re upgrading the RV to a Brinkley 2680 - a 30’ fifth wheel that weighs 10k or so dry and 14k or so loaded up. Well under the 18k towing capacity. My problem is my payload sticker says 1426 pounds - this seems extremely low to me for a 2500. Especially when GMC advertises it as close to 3k pounds payload and I’ve seen the exact same truck with right around 3k payload. The hitch weight of the Brinkley is more than entire payload on sticker

is it possible this is a mis printed sticker or could I somehow have gotten a 2500hd truck with 50% of the advertised payload?

for what’s its worth, this truck was originally sold in Canada so the stickers look a bit different. Pic below

*edited for more context of when I bought the truck to tow the RV I had at the time
Curb weight on the sticker seems high, I would get it weighed. Also, as said here it’s de-rated. In the glove box there should be a sticker with all the RPO codes. One of which might be a de rate. I don’t believe it’s anything but a sticker, all the hardware is the same.