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How bad are the AFM engines???

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#1 ·
I recently bought a 2014 Sierra SLT with 79,000 miles on it. It’s a beautiful truck, well maintained and in excellent condition.
When I was looking for a truck, I found a whole lot of 5.3 & 4.8 Ecotecs with well over 100,000 miles, many with over 150,000 and one with 200,000+ miles. Most seemed decent but I bought the one that I thought was the best for me.
However, upon reading the posts on this forum, it almost sounds like every time I start it up I have to worry about the AFM lifters taking out the cam. I’m thinking I’m on borrowed time waiting for the engine to explode.
It it really that bad, or just the fact that owners with problems are the only ones posting?? Should I just go ahead and spend thousands of dollars to remove the AFM stuff? Should I not take any trips over 50 miles?
Anyone have a solid motor with 100,000++ miles???
 
#100 ·
What a fascinatingly vague comment. Every vehicle model by every manufacturer has some known issues, which would be covered by your statement, so I guess you are really just saying to buy brand new vehicles, with no known issues.
 
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#102 ·
My son bought a 2015 with 200K on it a few years ago. It had a AFM solenoid warning on it already but ran fine. Got it from a dealer for good price. First oil change a lifter stuck closed. He parked it and rebuilt the top end including the new style AFM manifold and lifters and replaced all the valves and seals while he had the heads off. He also rebuilt the injectors, replaced high pressure fuel pump, added aftermarket air intake, replaced all coil packs and MAFS. He used 100% GM parts from dealers except intake costing about $2,000.00 in parts, he did the labor. Serial number on engine matches VIN, the cylinders still had cross hatching marks and no ridge. I'm an old 350 guy who has rebuilt a few and this engine puts that to shame, well engineered and made. It's a shame they had AFM problems on lifter/manifold on such a well designed engine.
Later the torque converter went out, it's a Z71 so when he dropped trans he serviced drive train which was like new. Discovered the torque converter had been changed at some point with the light duty one, put the proper torque converter back in from dealer $800. Serial number on transmission matches VIN. Added the new trans cooling block/thermostat from dealer, now runs cooler than before.
My opinion is these are great engines and drivetrains.
 
#103 ·
He used 100% GM parts from dealers except intake costing about $2,000.00 in parts, he did the labor.
Good for him. He would’ve been much better off by getting an AFM delete kit from Texas Speed, though. Then he’d never have to worry about potential AFM issues again. But hey, as long as he’s happy, that’s all that matters.
 
#104 ·
^^^^ this. Next time, dump AFM completely. And that dealer torque converter is likely no better than the one that was in the truck. Next time, get a billet aftermarket one.
 
#107 ·
This. Good to hear it has been going well for you.

Most owners regardless of generation (including the T1XX) don't have time for social media, neither do technicians, real mechanics.
Only those who like to crow about issues crow again and again.
Just look at the sheer number of youtube videos that trap unsuspecting viewers online.

Also, it is impossible to know whether the failures are genuine based solely off the Internet, YT, Social media (yes, there can be failures and the L87 issue is a serious problem regardless), but whether the person is lying, or whether its a loyalist of another brand trolling or bashing (can happen) is difficult to tell as well.

Take whatever is discussed online as potentially being faked. I cannot say it for every example, but it can be a possibility.