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Intermittent Torque converter locking issue

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#1 ·
4l60e trans rwd, 4300, 262k miles ish. when issue happens, truck will not down shift to accelerate hard when the pedal is hit hard, or even just aggresively at all at times. Truck happily upshifts very smoothly and downshifts with light pedal and everything else. Changed filter and put new fluid and shift solenoids in, issue persists. Note: fluid didnt have any abnormal amount of clutch dust or bearing shavings, on the magnet was a normal amount of material. Hooked scanner up, wheel speed, tps, and rpm reading as they should when issue occurs. Wondering if its a valve body or torque converter issue, or something in the tcm? The truck will rep up to the normal downshift rpm but you can feel the torque converter locking and unlocking over and over, making the truck lurch forward, and the rpms bouncing about 2 to 5 hundred from the normal accelerating downshift rpm when this occurs. Any advice appreciated.
 
#2 ·
What is the TCC slip speed at max duty cycle when the converter is supposed to be "locked up".

If it's more than 10 rpm or so, the tcc is slipping. At 262k it's prob done (the converter clutch). The tcc regulator valve and it's bore in the valve body is likely worn, same with the AFL valve bore. If you can diagnose the tcc being the direct cause, trans has to come out. And with the mileage on the unit, it would make zero sense not to overhaul it at that time, then go back with a brand new converter.
 
#4 ·
What's the TCC slip speed when duty cycle is at or near it's programmed max?

If you wont answer any of my questions, why should I respond to more of yours?
 
#8 ·
It is to me right now based on what you have stated above. If that description of your problem is not accurate, feel free to restate it.

I'd bring up all the transmission PIDs and record the logs so you can refer back to them/post them here. Id also look at / record engine management sensor/switch data to see if anything unusual (like misfires) is showing up there when the symptoms present during your test drive.

You may or may not have a TCC problem at all but wont know until you capture the data.
 
#10 ·
Ah okay
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[Could it be] anything else it could be other than the tcc? I domt have active misfire codes but i have codes for evap vent solenoid/small leak .
I was using a misfire as an example, not suggesting that's what's causing your problems...Yea, it could be anything beyond the TCC, or the TCC but there's no reason to speculate any further on what's causing what until you have some data.
 
#12 ·
I'd look at all engine and transmission data to see if anything sticks out as problematic but I'd focus on the torque converter slip speed and duty cycle because if the DS remains high but the slip speed is around say, 100-200 rpm, that would be 100% confirmation your converter clutch is slipping. Assuming that's what the data shows, the read diagnosis begins - which is to find out why is slipping.

Confirm or deny the condition first then start hunting down the causes.
 
#14 ·
No problem, happy to help...Yep, it's my full-time occupation.