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Figure it would be best to make a new thread to get rid of the clutter of the possibility of it being the ball joint.

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Had this problem for about 3 weeks now, the front drivers side suspension has been squeaking rather bad recently and I can't seem to pinpoint it.
When turning the wheel stationary or when driving, it does a steady creaking noise (listen in videos)
When going over even the slightest of bumps, manhole covers, ect.. It squeaks (Again..in videos)

I've replaced the LCA balljoints with MOOG ones about a month 1/2 ago, and just replaced the squeaking side one again today after thinking it was the balljoint that was the issue, it wasn't.

I thought that I had it pinned down to the wheel hub/bearing, but I was informed that it wouldn't squeak when turning the wheel.

Any ideas?

3min video of driving around the block - Wind noise. There are a few stops and eventually a stop/reverse in the end of the video which really brings out the squeaking noise since there's no wind

Wheel turning, slow bumps - No wind noise

Stationary turning the wheel back and forth slightly
 

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Jasen said:
Sounds like a rubber squeak to me.
I'd say sway bar bushings or links, but it sounds excessive for that seeing your not moving in the last video, although you have a lift so maybe that would affect sway bar parts more, IDK.
I was also thinking my sway bar end links since they are rusted to shit. The only thing that's making me lean more towards the wheel hub/ball joints is that's where I thought I could hear the noise coming from.

I'm going to either tomorrow or next weekend when I have more time, start to disassemble each of the parts, starting with the tie rod and then turn the hub back and forth to see if the squeak is still there. If it is, I'll take off the sway bar end link and turn the hub again..If it's still there, then it must be either the ball joints, or the CV axle.
 

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Well, I'm not sure if this is even the case, but worth a try.....I had step bars installed on my 12 GMC Sierra Crew Cab and shortly thereafter I had that same type squeaking sound with my truck.....sure as shit, it was my cab body mounts in which the step bar brackets bolted. I had to loosen them up and apply some silicone spray to stop the squeaking. It did it everywhere I drove for two days, it drove me nuts!
So if you've got step bars installed or recently installed some I suggest trying to loosen up the bolts and use some silicone spray on them...it maybe your issue! :D
 

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NCSUGatorman141 said:
Well, I'm not sure if this is even the case, but worth a try.....I had step bars installed on my 12 GMC Sierra Crew Cab and shortly thereafter I had that same type squeaking sound with my truck.....sure as ****, it was my cab body mounts in which the step bar brackets bolted. I had to loosen them up and apply some silicone spray to stop the squeaking. It did it everywhere I drove for two days, it drove me nuts!
So if you've got step bars installed or recently installed some I suggest trying to loosen up the bolts and use some silicone spray on them...it maybe your issue! :D
No stepbars, it's definitely something with the front suspension. Thanks for the input anyways
 

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that would drive me nuts.

I watched the video and it definitely seems to be coming from the the outside of the front end and not the coil like i would figure based on that noise. Everyone called me nuts but i had a squeak that i was convinced was a bearing and i finally just did it regardless of what others told me and I was right.
 

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I have the exact same problem. Watched OP's videos, and my truck makes the same squeak in the exact same circumstances. I have recently rebuilt the entire front end except lower control arms, so was thinking they were my cause. I was thinking if there's play in the bushing, it would explain the noise when turning the wheels stationary.

So I spent all day yesterday trying to locate the noise, and was unsuccessful. I do have play in the lower arms, but the noise is definitely coming from somewhere closer to the newly installed shock absorber on one side. Possibly where it mounts. Still baffled. Please keep us posted if you make progress!
 

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GMT604 said:
I don't know why you guys won't go invest $4.00 for an invaluable tool to track noises down. :roll:

When you touch the end of the probe to the offending part you won't be able to miss it.

http://www.harborfreight.com/mechanics- ... 69913.html

We don't have harborfreights in Canada, do we? :?
Next best thing I could find is Crappytire for $13

I'm just gunna disassemble the front drivers side, turning the wheel back and forth with each thing I take off till I narrow it down.

I'm also going to pick up some new sway bar end links from NAPA later this week.

Dumb question - Am I able to take off the sway bar end link while the vehicle is stationary on it's wheel and then jump on the bumper a little to see if it's the rotted end links that's causing the squeaking?
 

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So Cambodian Tire it is, I didn't look at your location. :lol: Isn't $15.00 or so better than hours of ripping things apart? :roll:

The sway bar links don't turn when the wheel is turning left to right so I doubt that is your problem.

The noise it is making in the stationary video is metal on rusty metal rotating. Upper or lower ball joint or tie rod end is my suspicion.
 

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GMT604 said:
So Cambodian Tire it is, I didn't look at your location. :lol: Isn't $15.00 or so better than hours of ripping things apart? :roll:

The sway bar links don't turn when the wheel is turning left to right so I doubt that is your problem.

The noise it is making in the stationary video is metal on rusty metal rotating. Upper or lower ball joint or tie rod end is my suspicion.
Upper ball joints were replaced with the RC upper control arms for the 7.5inch lift with the pressed in balljoints (MOOG) just over a month ago. The lower, I just replaced that on the weekend with another brand new MOOG one because that's what I thought was the problem.

Only reason I'm testing the sway bar is because they are rusted to shit, so I feel like with the bumps, it's causing the LCA to move which has the sway bar end links connected to it..Which is why I want to test those. That, and with my larger tires, it kind of moves the truck a little anyways when I turn the wheel when stationary... It's a long shot, but it's worth a shot anyways. End links are cheap and need to be replaced anyways.

If it's the wheel hub assembly, where would I put the stethoscope, on the CV axle?
 

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Right on the hub by the wheel speed sensor to check the hub. Hmm, just a thought, it could be the outer CV. In that case I would probe right at the CV outer joint.

Be aware that the noise can travel through other components, just find the loudest source.
 

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It's possible to take the knuckle off with the hub after disconnecting the control arm ball joints from it and then moving the CV Axle far enough of the way so that I can then put the knuckle back on without the CV axle in the hub, and then turn the knuckle assembly left and right to see if I can hear the squeaks still?

That would help eliminate the CV axle if it still squeaks without it being slotted in the hub.
 

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It really does sound like a ball joint but if i read through this correctly the only ball joint left is the outer tie rod, correct? Those should have grease fittings but if its on its way out you can sneak a little wd-40 in it to see if the sound temporarily goes away.
 

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Yeah, I got airtools but ita a reall pain in the ass to jack up my my truck and get the wheel off since I've got a real sketchy way of doing it.

Thats when I swapped out the balljoint on the weekend. My jackstand is a piece of 16/4 white oak under the frame
 

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Uploaded the wrong picture, but that wood stack under the drivers door there is what my jack sits on/in (I made a box for the jack)

Anyways, little update -
Took the tierod off the knuckle and let it hang loose, pushed down on the bumper and it still squeaked, so it's not the tie rod...
Used WD-40 on the control arm bushings and still squeaked, so it's not those...

I then had a 3rd party take a listen from under the truck when I pushed on the bumper and he even said that it sounded like it was coming from the CV axle joint or the wheel hub itself. I didn't tell him prior to this that I thought it was in that area.
 

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I've got the exaaaact same squeak under the same circumstances. Had it a while back, greased everything and sprayed every bushing I could find. Never could identify the source, but the next day, squeak went away (couple months ago). It came back yesterday, so I greased everything again, I'll go check in a bit to see if it's still there, since it took a day for the grease to work in the last time.

After looking last night, I really feel like it's coming from the bushings in my UCA. I have the Cognito UCAs so it has the grease zerks there, so I greased them, but also sprayed some PB Blaster on the edges where the bushings are visible.

So, not that I have a whole lot to offer, but definitely following along since it the same thing that seems to come and go.

EDIT: Just checked, squeak is gone. My gut is telling me it's the UCA bushings, but I'll need to grease fewer things the next time it happens and give it a day to know for sure.
 

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Does the wheel hub assembly center shaft hole that has the teeth for the CV axle end need to be greased? When I took it out on the weekend, there was no grease at all on it and I wasn't sure if it was suppose to be greased or not.
Also, the lower boot on the CV axel, the one closest to the hub. Can/should I remove the pressure clamp thats on it and spray some wd40 in there before putting the clamp back on?
 
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