[swathdiver]

They put a 2.7 in a FULL SIZE? 🤦🏼‍♂️ Is this part of GM hitting its C.A.F.E. standards?

My '85 S-10 had a 2.5 and I tow'ed that thing to its grave with an enclosed dirt bike trailer. Can't imagine the 2.7 would do much in a big truck, even if they're slapping in turbos.

Edit: don't mean to offend any 2.7 owners who love their rigs, it was just the shock of hearing a full size get a half engine.

Those little 2.7s make as much horsepower and more torque than the 5.3 in my 2009.

 

[Smitty27]

I'm all for them if they last. Lets compare those numbers again after 150k miles of towing all things consistent (maintenance, driving style, etc).

 

[moscooter]

I've never owned a diesel engine truck, but I gotta believe it's the low down big time (torque) that they put out that is the key.
I owned a 2005 Avalanche for about 16 years, with the 5.3 V8. One time we rented a 14 foot dual axle enclosed trailer to haul a couple of full size Harleys across No. Carolina into the mountains around Gatlinburg. Every time I got up to normal speed on the Interstate and the transmission went into high gear, it would very quickly start to loose speed and downshift. Rinse and repeat.

I had no concerns as to the power output of my engine, but it certainly didn't have the torque. My big concern was the transmission. I don't think the trans would have survived many more trips like that one.

 

[JohnnyBlaze21]

I'm all for them if they last. Lets compare those numbers again after 150k miles of towing all things consistent (maintenance, driving style, etc).

Lost track of all of the Chevy afm lawsuits. They are not know for reliability. I’ll take a turbo over afm any day of the week. Turbos have been around since 1915.

 

[Smitty27]

Lost track of all of the Chevy afm lawsuits. They are not know for reliability. I’ll take a turbo over afm any day of the week. Turbos have been around since 1915.

I have no problem with turbo engines generally, they just seem out of place as tiny ones inside full size trucks. Once they are well established in them I'll no doubt come around. I was impressed as hell with the hp of F**d's ecoboost - I've rented probably 8-10 of those over the years for work - but have never been in a 2.7. Sorry, it's just that number, cracks me up. That's what my feather light S-10 had in it. I know, I know it's not anywhere near the same motor. I'm old I guess.

 

[HED]

I have no problem with turbo engines generally, they just seem out of place as tiny ones inside full size trucks. Once they are well established in them I'll no doubt come around. I was impressed as hell with the hp of F**d's ecoboost - I've rented probably 8-10 of those over the years for work - but have never been in a 2.7. Sorry, it's just that number, cracks me up. That's what my feather light S-10 had in it. I know, I know it's not anywhere near the same motor. I'm old I guess.

Almost. My 2002 was a 4.3v6 that did relatively well. My wife liked it and wanted her own, but her 2003 was a 2.2. It struggled to push through a moderate head wind.

 

[Smitty27]

Almost. My 2002 was a 4.3v6 that did relatively well. My wife liked it and wanted her own, but her 2003 was a 2.2. It struggled to push through a moderate head wind.

LOL. We need a thread on "The Lowest HP Vehicle You've Ever Driven." Mine was a buddy's '63 VW bug I had to borrow last minute for a work delivery up in Central CA. I had to putter that thing thru the Grapevine (ridiculously steep highway) back and forth. I had loaded semi's passing me on the left and I had the pedal to the floor. Sucked.

 

[eyrx]

They put a 2.7 in a FULL SIZE? 🤦🏼‍♂️ Is this part of GM hitting its C.A.F.E. standards?

My '85 S-10 had a 2.5 and I tow'ed that thing to its grave with an enclosed dirt bike trailer. Can't imagine the 2.7 would do much in a big truck, even if they're slapping in turbos.

Edit: don't mean to offend any 2.7 owners who love their rigs, it was just the shock of hearing a full size get a half engine.

Yes, they put a 2.7T in a full-size. Honestly, I love it. I did test drive the 5.3L and found it just a little jumpy. But I'm also coming from a Subaru with a 2.5L 4Cyl. Plus, I have yet to see below 21MPG in the truck (not that MPGs matter too much). I'm sure the next truck I move to (hopefully in a few years) will be a Sierra again with a v8! But by then, we'll have EVs..

 

[Smitty27]

Yes, they put a 2.7T in a full-size. Honestly, I love it. I did test drive the 5.3L and found it just a little jumpy. But I'm also coming from a Subaru with a 2.5L 4Cyl. Plus, I have yet to see below 21MPG in the truck (not that MPGs matter too much). I'm sure the next truck I move to (hopefully in a few years) will be a Sierra again with a v8! But by then, we'll have EVs..

Definitely get it. You'll come around to the big guys once you've been in trucks long enough, it's a progression.

 

[fondupot]

I was just given a 2022 Silverado LTD as a work truck. It has the 2.7T. I think its adequate for what I do for work, but I would definitely opt for a V8 if I was buying for myself.

 

[Sperry]

They put a 2.7 in a FULL SIZE? 🤦🏼‍♂️ Is this part of GM hitting its C.A.F.E. standards?

I tried building out my 2013 with current offerings. Regular cab is only available with the 8' bed. Only one engine option, the I-4 2.7L with an 8-speed automatic transmission.

25.7 average so far.

25.7 MPG? Sounds nice!

 

[Farmguy]

I've never owned a diesel engine truck, but I gotta believe it's the low down big time (torque) that they put out that is the key.
I owned a 2005 Avalanche for about 16 years, with the 5.3 V8. One time we rented a 14 foot dual axle enclosed trailer to haul a couple of full size Harleys across No. Carolina into the mountains around Gatlinburg. Every time I got up to normal speed on the Interstate and the transmission went into high gear, it would very quickly start to loose speed and downshift. Rinse and repeat.

I had no concerns as to the power output of my engine, but it certainly didn't have the torque. My big concern was the transmission. I don't think the trans would have survived many more trips like that one.

The 2.7T being discussed is a gasoline powered 4 cylinder.

The diesel in the 1500's is a 3.0L 6 cylinder.

The current 2.7T is beefed up from the way it was introduced and got an output increase.

For 2022
L3B Engine, 2.7L Turbo High-Output, (310 hp [231 kW] @ 5600 rpm, 430 lb-ft of torque [583 Nm] @ 3000 rpm)
L84 Engine, 5.3L EcoTec3 V8, (355 hp [265 kW] @ 5600 rpm, 383 lb-ft of torque [518 Nm] @ 4100 rpm); featuring Dynamic Fuel Management
L87 Engine, 6.2L EcoTec3 V8, (420 hp [313 kW] @ 5600 rpm, 460 lb-ft of torque [624 Nm] @ 4100 rpm); featuring Dynamic Fuel Management
LM2 Engine, Duramax 3.0L Turbo-Diesel I6, (277 hp [206.6 kW] @ 3750 rpm, 460 lb-ft of torque [623.7 N-m] @ 1500 rpm)

The LM2 is being replaced with the LZO for 2023. Output has not been announced.
LZ0 Engine, Duramax 3.0L Turbo-Diesel I6

 

[DenaliDood]

Lost track of all of the Chevy afm lawsuits. They are not know for reliability. I’ll take a turbo over afm any day of the week. Turbos have been around since 1915.

The 2.7 Turbo has AFM also. So, yes, you would have a 2 cylinder engine running a full size truck part of the time.