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Using HID Lights

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I've continued to research HID lights--best types, where to mount the ballasts, etc. One issue that I keep finding is that low beam HID's do not work well (if at all) when the low beam is also the daytime running light (DRL). Apparently, since the bulb runs at a lower voltage as a DRL, there is not enough power through the ballast to ignite the HID. Most of what I have read recommends removing the fuse for the DRL to avoid any issues.
I like having DRL's. If I cannot have them, I will probably stay with a high quality halogen, like Silverstar Ultra.

I know this was mentioned breifly in another thread, but I think it's important enough to discuss separately. It could have a pretty big impact on members considering HID's.

For anyone that has HID's in your low beam with DRL's, can you comment on this, please?
 
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The DRL lights are a separate bulb and draw very little power. I have been told from multiple companies including the ones I ordered my bulbs from http://www.kryptonbulbs.com that this is not an issue at all. I will be installing mine (yes i have said this a few times) as soon as I get home with is the 4th and will do a write up and let everyone know how it went.
 
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I actually sent Josh at Krypton a note. Hopefully he will reply. I believe you, but would absolutely trust his judgment. Remember, your truck is unique in that your DRL's are separate. A lot of us have low beam DRL's.
 
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AK, personally I had never seen your setup but if it is seperate bulbs it should be fine.

For the rest of you normal folk :) ... if you are running bulbs that act as DRL's you will need to run relay harnesses or a relay harness. This takes that lower voltage and runs a relay with that, the relay in turn pulls power directly from the battery to your ballasts. I do have these available but in limited quantity at the moment as I haven't been selling them. I will make sure to get some more now that you guys are discussing this.

I will try to post up a vid tomorrow showing the hookup of a relay harness as well as a link to the product(s) on my site.

What is your low beam bulb? 9006?

Also, EK thank you for the email and asking me to post on this issue, I know its usually "taboo" for a non advertiser to do this and I appreciate that you value and trust my knowledge base enough to ask me here to do this.

Thanks
Josh
 
#6 ·
Josh,
The new body style (NBS) trucks from 2007 to current use H11 low beams.
I had read some about the relays. Thanks for clarifying, and for any other info you can share.
Thanks for your help.
 
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EKinMN said:
Josh,
The new body style (NBS) trucks from 2007 to current use H11 low beams.
I had read some about the relays. Thanks for clarifying, and for any other info you can share.
Thanks for your help.
Ok, the relays I push are actually 9006 and are useable on all my HID kits as they all use a 9006 connector to the ballast, this is the main reason I am going to post the vid up tomorrow. I do however have H11 harnesses as well I believe, but once all the others are gone I will only be using 9006 in the future.

AK.... get out the popcorn :)
 
#11 ·
AK
You have to do it during the daylight (hopefully you have an hour or so of that up there right now?) Here is what I did:

While truck was sitting in my driveway with the garage door closed (so i could see the lights reflect off the door), I put the truck in Drive, and made sure the DRL's were on.
I then turned the light switch to on. I saw the lights get brighter.
I turned it back to auto, and they got dimmer.

They are definitely not amber, like my parking lights. I have an aftermarket halogen bulb in the low beams, so I can see it's the bluish color - just brighter or dimmer depending on the setting.
 
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Maybe if you shined a shop light at the sensor. The sensor is in the center of the dash...the little bubble thingy.
 
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OK guys, I never got that vid taken but i do have an old one of a single bulb delay relay that I made up for the R6 guys having problems. Its basically the same idea but there is no delay on it.

Your bulb has a power harness that goes to a 9006 plug, the 9006 plug normally plugs into the ballast. Instead of plugging it into the ballast you plug it into the relay kit. The relay kit is powered by i of the stock wires the other is not used.

The relay kit plugs into the ballasts, hooks to the positive pole of the battery and hasa 2 ground wires you need to connect to good grounds. These can be to Body or frame or you could splice them into the stock bulb ground wires.

Here is the vid:

Here is the relay you would use, (note, you can use the H11 and you wouldnt use the haness on the bulb or the 9006 and you will) One I am out of the "others" i will only be offering 9006 as they work on all my kits.
http://www.kryptonbulbs.com/HID-kits/HID-accessories/HID-relay-harness/HID-single-beam-relay-kit

If you guys ever have any questions feel free to hit me up via email found on my site, I do not actively watch this forum however google does alert me when it sees my company name mentioned. I will only post in here about my products when asked to by a mod.

Thanks
Josh
 
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This is the first I've heard of any problems with hids and drls. Strange considering other forums I'm on have hid threads popping up everywhere and not once is this mentioned. So if I understand correctly you're saying some trucks, I'm assuming nbs anyway, have separate bulbs for drls and some don't? And the ones that don't need relays?
 
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Any bulb used as a drl that is changed to a HID should have a relay harness, that is the practice that I and other HID suppliers use, most if not all recommend it. I would think it would always cause a problem if not used but I'm sure there are some it doesn't. From my experiance HID's can be tempermental and then the ballast is not supplied with the proper voltage (9-16V) they tend to not work.
 
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9-16v is a pretty broad range. I wonder what the voltage is, when the DRL is on, vs. regular light?
 
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#21 ·
Oddly, after all this conversation, I had an OEM bulb burn out last night. Seems strange, given the truck is a few months old. But, I took it as a sign. So, I talked on the phone again this morning with Josh, and I ordered my HID's and relays from http://www.kryptonbulbs.com.
I am going to connect using the relays, and hope to keep the DRL's functioning. I will let ya all know how it goes!
 
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#25 ·
Josh (the light guy) called me this afternoon. He knew I was a little worried about this, so he hooked everything up in the bix for me. I may have to unplug a few things as I place it into the truck, but at least I can clearly see the fittment before I start.

I know...I could easily figure this out myself...but it was nice of him to "dumb it down" for me. (no comments on that from my fellow mods, please) :D
 
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#26 ·
LBZDMAX said:
You guys worry tooooo much! If the relays give you the warm and fuzzies then by all means go for it! Plenty of others out there spending their $ on other stuff. To each his own!
Thanks to LBXDMAX for a great "How To" article, and he's our newest member of the "How To" group of Authors. Check out the How to choose HID headlights when chossing new headlights!
 
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