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Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby mandinga [OP] » Jul 13 2020, 1:17pm

I have a 2015 sierra 1500. I recently bought a new trailer from my neighbor for a steal of a deal. It is a 26 foot jayco with rear slide expanding to 32 feet. Dry weight with propane of 5700lbs, 740lb tongue weight.

With our stuff and water, proably closer to 6400lbs/1000 tongue weight.

Truck tows it just fine. I have hauled it over 2000km in the last few weeks. Some areas very hilly. Last weekend I stopped at a truck stop with a scale just to see.

Front Axle weight 3640 (max is 3900lbs)
Read axle weight 4560 (max is 3900lbs)
Gross vehicle weight 8000 (max 7200 lbs)
Trailer axle weight 5740 (max 6000 lbs)
Combined weight 13740 (max 15,000)

So I am 800lbs overweight on the payload of my truck even though I am within the tow capacity. It doesn't help that I have a bed cap, bed slide, and a few other accessories that add weight to the truck.

Just goes to show how quickly the payload capacity of these trucks get used up.

Next year we will be looking into a 3/4 or 1 ton truck for sure.
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby 19trax95 » Jul 13 2020, 1:21pm

Yup. That's the main issue with the 1500 trucks. You will almost always run out of payload before you can get close to your max trailer weight.
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby Junior62 » Jul 13 2020, 1:36pm

Glad you weighed it to see where you were at! Agree with the above post.....the max towing number is just a number war between manufacturers. The "real" towing number is payload. If you only have ~1800lbs of payload capacity and 1000lbs tongue weight then you literally only have capacity for 4 adults and thats it. No more capacity for anything else in the cabin or the bed. When you see a 1500 rated over ~7500lbs towing its a joke unless your the only one in the vehicle and have no other passengers or gear. With 10-15% tongue weight anything over 7500lbs and your cutting your payload by over half already....
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby Delrio » Jul 13 2020, 2:26pm

That was my issue. I literally just bought a 2500HD this past Saturday for the same exact reason.

Towing capacity is a marketing number only! That number can be ignored.

IT IS MAX PAYLOAD THAT IS THE MAGIC NUMBER.

I learned this the hard way. Same exact way as you!
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby Speed Nut » Sep 15 2020, 8:22pm

A couple weeks ago I traded in my T**dra because it didn’t have the payload tow a bigger TT. We also got a fair deal on trading it in due to used truck inventory being so low.

You won’t regret getting a new 2500 or 3500. You’ll be able to tow with piece of mind that it will stop the weight you’re pulling too.
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby Walkers » Sep 15 2020, 10:01pm

A wd hitch will certainly help, and with a diet you may get it just under, but a 2500 truck will fix your issues nicely. I bought a 2500 15 years ago, have been through 3 of them now, I don’t think I could ever go back to a half ton pick up. I drove 4500, 6500 and 7500 trucks for work for years, it is hard not just hooking up to whatever the hell you want.
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby gphipps33 » Sep 16 2020, 12:56am

Same situation here. Had a 2007 1500 and bought a new camper this summer. Started doing the math and realized I was over the payload even though the truck towed the trailer fine. Traded it in on a 2013 2500HD with the 6.0 and couldn’t be happier!!
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby CKNSLS » Sep 16 2020, 1:02am

Yea-the trailer salesman at th RV dealer told me my 2018 Silverado with the 5.3 would tow nearly 10,000 pounds.

There are no standards in the RV Industry for the terms "half-ton towable" and "Ultra light".
Buyer needs to be very aware and do the math before the purchased.
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby Bradley21sanders » Sep 16 2020, 2:56pm

Yeah and that's the problem with both truck dealers and RV dealers they simply do not know! the tow rating is a joke on the 1500s compared to the payload rating. I wish I had weighed the last trailer I pulled like you did
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Re: Looks like a bigger truck is in my future

Postby nealinator » Sep 16 2020, 3:11pm

Here is a long winded video...but shows what Andy (Walkers) mentioned above about a weight distributing hitch helping with your situation. As opposed to airbags...which can level out the truck, but the weight is still on the rear...the WD hitch transfers load to the front axle.

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