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1995 Chevy won't start unless it's cold outside?

3.1K views 17 replies 5 participants last post by  davester3500  
#1 ·
I inherited my dad's old 1995 Chevy K2500 pickup that has a 5.7L and a 5 speed manual transmission. It ran ok until March and then started having problems starting. When April hit and it warmed up outside a little more (50's), it completely quit starting. It turns over fine but won't fire: it's not getting gas or spark. Over the summer I changed the distributor cap and ignition module with no change. Last year I changed the fuel filter. Today I went out and tried it again and it started right up, with the temperatures in the 40's. After driving it around for a few miles, I parked it at home and now it won't start again. I suspect in the morning when it's near freezing it might start again.

Does anyone have any idea what would make one of these old throttle body injection trucks not get gas or spark? Maybe an Intermittent computer problem? I've seen other people in these forums with bad crankshaft position sensors have issues when their trucks warm up, but mine ran fine warmed up (until I turned the ignition off). Could that still be the problem? I can't think of any other item that would shut off the gas and spark.

Thanks for any ideas!
 
#2 ·
The first thing I would do is the next time it does not start spray some starting fluid down the throttle body and see if it runs or at least fires a bit. This will tell you if you have spark or not.

Does not run, no spark. Try replacing the coil.

Does run some, no fuel. This motor should have a pressure sensor behind the distributor to stop the fuel pump if there is no oil pressure (safety thing). You should also have a fuel pump relay that should start the pump for a few seconds when the key is turned. Back around by the brake booster is a plug that you can jump to power the fuel pump.

A fuel pressure tester gauge would help in all of this too.
 
#4 ·
Thanks for the replies!

OK, maybe I should say a little more about what I've done. In March when it started becoming intermittent, I had my daughter turn the key and I looked in the throttle body; the fuel injectors weren't shooting any gas. I tried to dump gas down the throttle body with no luck, it didn't try to fire. Then I went and bought a spark tester that goes between the spark plug wire and the plug and found I had no spark. That made me think maybe the ignition control module(?) under the distributor cap. I changed the rotor, distributor cap, and ignition control module but it made no difference. Those parts are good, it ran good yesterday until I shut it back off in my driveway.

A friend at work said my fuel pump might be dead or weak. I jumpered the fuel pump relay and can hear it running and the pickup runs strong when it does start. I would test the fuel pressure but that's not easy on a 1995, they don't have pressure test ports so I'd have to remove the fuel filter again. To clear up any concern about the fuel filter, it probably has less than 300 miles since I changed it. Who knows, maybe it is a bad fuel pump but would that cut out the spark too? I'm hoping it's not a fuel pump because it's got a full 34 gallon tank that would need dropped.

I removed the gas cap completely and it didn't make a difference. I hear the fuel pump for about 3 seconds when the ignition is turned to on. It turns over fine but just doesn't fire....again.
 
#7 ·
Well hell....

You have now replaced all of the ignition parts. If I remember correctly (it has been a long time) there is no other computer/sensor control on your 95 motor ignition system.

Need to get a wiring diagram and start testing and tracking the wiring.
 
#12 ·
Thanks again for the responses. Yes, it still seems temperature dependent. Yesterday it wasn't starting and it was in the 40's. I came home after work and it's 36 degrees and it's now started three times in a row. This is after it wouldn't even start (or fire) once during summer.

Larry- I have changed the ignition control module in the back/under the distributer cap.

Tom- I just went out and got a video while I turned it to the on position and then started it. The check engine comes on for maybe a second, flips off and then back on quickly, then stays on until I start the engine and it shuts off.

Tom, I was also wondering if I had power on the coil (or anywhere) when I try to start it and it's not working. I've had cars in the past that lost the accessories function while they were running and you'd have to wiggle the key a little to get the gauges to work again. Do you think it's possible that I'm losing the "on" function when I twist the key forward to engage the starter? Maybe the ignition switch is going out? Thanks for mentioning the pink wire on the coil because I haven't found myself a good wiring diagram.

Someone also mentioned an oil pressure shut off that disables the gas and spark if there's no oil pressure? Is it possible that's bad and causing my problem? I would have more oil pressure on startup with colder oil. Maybe I shouldn't have put synthetic in it.
 
#13 ·
correct check engine light operation is great. the system has power and there are no issues with the sensors (completed self test). Indicates the system is not being triggered. You have already changed the ignition module, so the next step is the trigger coil in the distributor (intermittent- heats up and looses contact internally). replacement requires disassembly of the distributor- if you are not comfortable doing that, replace the distributor with a reman unit

Thanks Tom
 
#15 ·
Thanks for letting me know that the oil pressure doesn't kill the starting circuit. I'm working twelve hour days the next couple days so this will need to wait until the weekend. I'll look into changing the trigger coil or hit the junkyard after work and get a whole distributor. I think I can swap the distributor and get it back in the right position.
 
#16 ·
OK, so it was cold again today and I still thought the problem might be in the ignition switch. I started the pickup (it's in the upper 30's) then drove about 10 miles to my brother's house and gave him a ride. Afterwards we were sitting in front of his house talking and it just died like I'd turned the key off. It turns over fine but it's back to no spark, no gas. We got his meter out and I tested the pink wire on the coil, it has 12.5 volts in "run" position and 10.5 while it's cranking over. That rules out the ignition switch. If it starts tomorrow morning, I'll probably drive it home and then go buy a used distributor this week after work. It definitely doesn't seem to be getting the signal to spark and fire the injectors.
 
#17 ·
Apparently it was the ignition pickup coil in the distributor. It was snowing this morning and the pickup still didn't start. I'd watched some YouTube videos and decided to just go to Napa and buy a new distributor rather than getting an old part from a junk yard. After installing the new distributor the truck started right up and I drove home. I still need to get the timing adjusted but it's running again and I think it's all good. Thank you again for all your help on this!