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2018 Sierra 1500 AC broken, dealer can't solve mystery

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#1 ·
Hi so my (still under warranty) 2018 Sierra 1500's air conditioner does not work. I took it to the dealer 3 weeks ago, they replaced some seals, but said they found another leak but needed to order some parts to fix.

Fast forward this Monday, they had the parts so I brought the truck in. They ended up replacing some seals on the compressor side and refilling the refrigerant. I then picked up the truck, drove home, again found no AC.

I brought the truck back on Tuesday morning, they tried diagnosing it again, and said they found now the condenser was leaking. They ordered a new condenser and installed it today, Wednesday. So I went to pick up the truck, and tried the AC in the parking lot with the service manager there to make sure that it worked, and to his shock- it did not work still. They immediately pulled the truck back in put some more refrigerant in and sniffed around with their sniffer and could not find the source of the leak. It appears that it leaks out in the 2-4 hours between when they fill it and when I come to actually pick up the truck.

They have said that they're going to disassemble The interior tomorrow and check all the components behind the dash, but didn't have any real clues as of today. Has anyone else had any experience with hard to track down AC leaks in these later model trucks? The service manager says they changed the AC system between 2017 and 2018, so this is the style they're less used to working on. 6.2L motor if it matters. Considering that we're on our fourth try to fix the same issue under warranty, I just hope that doesn't make my vehicle a lemon.
 
#2 ·
Not sure why they can't figure it out for you. They aren't very complicated systems.

And them using the excuse that it's a new type of system that they aren't used to is utter BS. In 2017 they went to r-1234yf instead of r-134a. The systems are the same operation wise as they have basically always been, just the refrigerant changed. However, being a dealer, and having the r-1234yf out for several years now, they absolutely should know how to handle it given it's in all the vehicles.

But perhaps try a different dealer if they can't help.
 
#4 ·
If it has that big of a leak they should be able to find it if they are any good at all.
Sounds like a bs excuse to me too that they aren't used to working on that year ac, especially a dealer. They should have all the tools and resources necessary to solve the issue.
I don't know that I would trust that place to start tearing apart the dash when they can't even find an ac leak. Is there another dealer you can take it to for a second opinion before they start taking apart the dash?
 
#7 ·
granted its a little older but we replaced almost the entire AC system, lines, compressor condenser, seals and all in my dads truck and vacuumed down and charged up with no prior experience. Its not hard at all
 
#8 ·
So we got an update for you guys... You're probably going to laugh, but they claim they fixed it this afternoon. I picked it up at about 2:00 p.m., and the air conditioning worked at the time. By about 5:00 p.m. I got back in the truck and tried driving to a location about 20 minutes away. It got a little warm inside the truck, so naturally, I tried to turn on the air conditioning. I heard a hissing noise and a strange smell came through the cab of the truck that smelled like refrigerant. Believe you're not the air coming out of the fence was NOT COLD! I'm at a complete loss, five attempts to fix the air conditioning and it's still broken. I guess I need to go to another dealer, which is a pain because I live in Maine and dealers are few and far between.

Truly the hard part is to find a dealer willing to give you a loaner truck while they attempt to fix this. My local dealer could only give me this tiny loaner subcompact Buick that tops out at 85 mph with the pedal on the rug. I need the truck for work, and unfortunately a tiny Buick does not replace it.
 
#9 ·
Call the Chevrolet (GM) Executive Office 313-667-7153 and tell them what is going on. This office is above Chevrolet/GM Customer Service and the people in this office can and do work miracles. I've used them twice and was more than pleased with their results, and they do call you back when they say they will. Problems get resolved in days, not weeks,
 
#11 ·
That is horrible. I hope you get your truck fixed on the next visit wherever you go.
 
#12 ·
kwilder said:
So we got an update for you guys... You're probably going to laugh, but they claim they fixed it this afternoon. I picked it up at about 2:00 p.m., and the air conditioning worked at the time. By about 5:00 p.m. I got back in the truck and tried driving to a location about 20 minutes away. It got a little warm inside the truck, so naturally, I tried to turn on the air conditioning. I heard a hissing noise and a strange smell came through the cab of the truck that smelled like refrigerant. Believe you're not the air coming out of the fence was NOT COLD! I'm at a complete loss, five attempts to fix the air conditioning and it's still broken. I guess I need to go to another dealer, which is a pain because I live in Maine and dealers are few and far between.

Truly the hard part is to find a dealer willing to give you a loaner truck while they attempt to fix this. My local dealer could only give me this tiny loaner subcompact Buick that tops out at 85 mph with the pedal on the rug. I need the truck for work, and unfortunately a tiny Buick does not replace it.
This to me says a clogged low pressure tube. Doesn't sound like they've fully-evacuated the system. They are probably assuming that they depressurized it that a clog of moisture/crud will all come out, not the case. Definitely go to another dealer, don't give up on warranty coverage.
 
#15 ·
Sorry I didn't see this before, I hope you got your truck fixed. For me it ended up being the evaporator core, they basically disassembled the whole cab to get to it, before doing that they replaced the compressor, condenser and all the lines. GM engineering had to get involved to solve the problem. At the dealer rate it ended up being in excess of $6k of labor and parts, thankfully GM picked up the bill on this one.

They claim it wasn't easy to get their refrigerant sniffer in there because the evaporator is buried in the dash, but the telltale sign that should have given it away I guess was the smell of refrigerant inside the cab. I only smelled it once, because I only picked up the truck soon enough before it all leaked out one time. I would think the techs would have picked up on this, but it is possible that they are nose blind to the refrigerant smell when working with it all day
 
#18 ·
Mine ended up being the condenser. You know the part? Same EXACT one that the 2015-2017 models had so many issues with, but since it wasn't one of those, the repair fell on me. Since 1000 Youtube videos show how easy it is to replace in about 2 hours without pulling the bumper off, and the part is only $140, I figured they'd be able to evacuate it, swap it, recharge, etc. for maybe $500 (R1234yf is way more expensive than R-134a), but I was dead wrong. The book says they have to pull the bumper, etc.. to get to it, and the cost would be $1700. While we were discussing it, a salesman came and told me they'd give me what I paid for it 2 years ago on trade. I called BS, but he wasn't joking.

I had purchased the 2018 2 years prior with 7200 miles on it, but another 52,000 miles on it (odometer was at 59,233 when I pulled into the dealership) and they gave me $44,500 for it towards trade on a new 2021 Silverado RST. I still got the dealer incentives and all rebates, talked them down about $1500 off the MSRP, and they took the broken truck. Sure, they'll fix it a lot cheaper than what they would have charged me, but I felt like I got a steal of a deal. After a 5 year/125K GM warranty (bumper to bumper, 0 deductible - FL law won't let them profit on extended warranties), I still walked out with a new truck and my payment went down over $100/month.
 
#21 ·
It could be a lot of things
 
#26 ·
So you've verified that the actuator is moving the blend door back and forth, and that the post the actuator rotates is still attached to the door?

After that, assuming the fan is working, would be checking if there is any debris on the evaporator in the hvac ducting (should be able to use an inspection camera to check this, perhaps through the opening where the fan mounts afte removing it).