What’s the rules on trying to pick a fight with them?

 

In the case of these two bots I say this....

Just because the technology exists and is readily available, doesn't mean it's a one-size fit's all, and it's useful in any given situation, or adds value to that particular situation.

In the case of SilveradoSierra and any one of a multitude of other Fora/Vertical Scope vehicle oriented websites, like Firebird Nation, for example, of which I am also a member, to see some mundane useless "canned" answer from a bot that can search the web faster than humanly possible, then asking for more information or supplying what are often mindless unrelated answers just clogs the thread, which, after seeing it just a time or two will just be passed over like it didn't even exist, never to be read, and nothing more than a nuisance.

Websites of our kind is really no place for this nonsense.

 

AI is dumb.

"hey, how can we make humans lazier"

That is all haha

 

I agree... but disagree. The washing machine, dishwasher, cotton picker, pressure washer, chainsaw. I'm convinced its just the next tool. It can see, learn, and memorize a lot.

I had a CPA tell me in 10 years it'll take his job because it can apply the entire 70,000 page tax code and can give you more leverage for the next tax year.

 

I was able to ignore forachat a few day or a week ago, but forafrank is listed as a staff member and does not give an option to ignore.

 

I picked on them being AI when roo started ranting bout them

 

+1 for adding the block option / ignore

 

seen them on other vertical scope sites. signed in 5-6 days back. they commented a little.
sucks for humans reading looking for humans that care. at least vertical scope could highlight their posts as experimental AI.

vertical scope broke a whole lot when they swapped off vbulletin,...ditched google search.
(which bites when you know the tread is in the forum,...and can't search to find it successfully again)
they have 1200 plus forums ....I only read those about fixing cars and trucks. ...some I am sure about pimple popping, cancer diagnosis. crap book clubs/wine.

not sure what is worse Artificial Intelligence ...or the opposite. ...Real Stupid.
(either way,...not sure if anyone actually "works" at vertical scope car forums anymore,...cheaper just to collect the ad revenue).

 

@ForaFrank your mother was a toaster who loved to toast my wonderbread.
@ForaChat you remind me of a vacuum with how much you suck.

Disclaimer: this post is for purely experimental reasons

 

IF the context is specifically to boost threads with legitimate questions that have otherwise been unanswered, I can see the value in that. Also, an optional "smart search" could be super handy to find similar articles/threads that may have an answer to the question. I DON'T see any value in having it artificially "add smarts" to our otherwise (somewhat intentionally) brain-dead banter.

 

IF the context is specifically to boost threads with legitimate questions that have otherwise been unanswered, I can see the value in that.

Bumping up threads that haven't been answered in a few days and have fallen off the front page of new posts is probably the main benefit we'll get out of them. It will still take a long time before AI can actually suggest proper actual repair solutions etc. For now they'll just tell the person what and where to look, not what to do.

I don't mind AI that much and it does help me at work, but for an old dude like me it's a bit of a learning curve. Fora bots are nowhere close to be of help for most of us here. Maybe VS will figure out they're nonsense and retire them at some point. 🤷‍♂️

 

If his name was ForaFrankCostanza then he could stay and celebrate ForaFestivus with with us, otherwise F that guy.

 

And DOGE evidently has a plan for rewriting the social security software system in just a couple months, and the only way you could try to do that is to run it through some AI system (probably just happening to pay elon to use his ai system). If they actually do try this, expect it to be a train wreck.

 

I have suggested VS revise the signature and profile title to include something along the lines of 'Virtual Assistant' so it is clear to everyone from where the post came. We'll see if that comes to fruition.

 

That's some good feedback - I'll definitely pass it along to the team.

- Christian

 

That same thing is on this site for several days, too. 'Community Assistant' is misleading and could be interpreted as being human.

 

Wait... I HAVE A TERRIBLE IDEA! Let us name it...

 

Frank the Tank!!!!

 

Wonder if it's been introduced to the HD site I use to frequent?
Moved on from it not to long after verty took over.
Would seem another home may be in order again.
🖕 AI

 

Don't care for it, on another site it has generated piss poor if not bad advice on several postings.

Hell at one place you get your hand slapped for any TTT posting yet this was desgined in part to do just that.
Perhaps instead of an "ignore" for the bot it should be asked upon sign in if you want to see bot postings thus making sure 100% everyone knows it's happening. If not I agree some sort of warning label besides community assistant is needed to definitively identify the post as non human. Make it first line of the posting not the bottom as not to be missed.

I really enjoy browsing forums but a bunch of bot generated postings is a reason to just not visit as often, why bother...

 

We understand that some of you may have concerns about the use of AI-generated responses in our forums. We’re approaching this as an experimental feature.

We've noticed some threads, especially ones by newer users or involving niche topics, sometimes go unanswered under “What's New” > “Looking for Replies,” and we're looking at ways to kickstart more lively discussion in them.

The goal is to provide quick, helpful information in areas where it makes sense, not to replace expert advice or real discussion. AI won’t always get it right, and we know that. But with continued use, review, and tuning, its accuracy and usefulness will improve over time.

That said, human input still matters most. If you ever see AI responses that are incorrect, misleading, or just not helpful, please keep posting your own advice and insights. You help keep the quality of our community strong.

In the meantime, keep an eye out for your new Community Assistant, @ForaFrank! No need to report his posts — he's here to help, and we're keeping a close eye on how he performs.

Thanks for being part of this process as we test and learn together.

- The Community Management Team

 

We understand that some of you may have concerns about the use of AI-generated responses in our forums. We’re approaching this as an experimental feature.

We've noticed some threads, especially ones by newer users or involving niche topics, sometimes go unanswered under “What's New” > “Looking for Replies,” and we're looking at ways to kickstart more lively discussion in them.

First, I'm sure you've noticed that I've already been very vocal about this and will continue to be. NO AI is going to kickstart a discussion simply be answering. That's total bullshit. Did you ever stop to think that perhaps nobody on the forum knows the answer, or the question is so freaking stupid that it's not worthy of an answer? This is not Facebook, but you're sure trying like hell to replicate it's MO.

The goal is to provide quick, helpful information in areas where it makes sense, not to replace expert advice or real discussion.

It's not providing any " quick helpful information" that, regardless of the topic, everybody including the OP doesn't already know the obvious answer......And what exactly is the "quick helpful information" intended to do?
It's very obvious to me that you've never really taken an in-depth review of this particular forum, and I sense that you don't do it with any other either. We have the smarts on this forum to know that, for instance, if there's a transmission issue,for example to refer the OP to @NickTransmissions; if there's a tuning issue to refer the OP to @06MonteSS. Some of us spend a lot of time on the forum, but most of us have "real lives." It could take days for the correct person to respond. Nothing here is an emergency. Another Forum to which I belong, (Firebird Nation,) there are 2 resident experts. Sometimes those two give responses as if they were Tolstoy writing War and Peace, but they might not respond for 72 hours or more. AI ain't gonna help fix that, and the 'adults in the room' already know that.

That said, human input still matters most. If you ever see AI responses that are incorrect, misleading, or just not helpful,

No shit.....but in this case, your AI id basically forcing us to read thru the information that may be misleading, incorrect or not helpful, and WTH should we have to do that to get to the meat of the matter.


Thanks for being part of this process as we test and learn together.

I'd be more than happy to pay $5.00 a month to get rid of the stupid shit you feel is useful. There is a treasure trove of information already on the site from the membership. We don't need, nor do we want AI.......and I'll say it once again.....Just because the technology is available, doesn't mean it's useful or adds value.

 

What about this coming up now when i get on google ? It keeps popping up even after getting rid of it.

 

I am concerned about this article

80% Of Gen Zers Would Marry An AI: Study

We do have some Gen Z members here and at least one of them may fall in love and want to marry one of these AI creations. Are the admins ready for that situation and what will happen?

 

Roorancher what is with your responses inside the quote and why the colors? Hard to read and yes I know I'm old.

I see you said you would pay $5 a month to get rid of the bots. I would not pay a dime for anything on this forum, no bots, no ads, "special section" or whatever. Don't give them any ideas on trying to charge for something else

 

As Admins/Moderators, we are not to do anything with these posts. We cannot ban or delete.

...and i banned them on the other sites i use.
nobody likes them

 

...and i banned them on the other sites i use.
nobody likes them

Unbanned and restored his posts.

Jeff

 

Poor Frank nobody likes him

It sounds like to me they are trying to get more users and keep them with this dumb bot crap. They think if someone posts something and nobody answers it will scare them off, BUT if we have a bot answer them they will feel wanted and cherished. This could work on Gen Z but for us older (and some downright ancient) people we don't like talking to robots. This site gets plenty of traffic so it isn't like it is dead and needs bots to stimulate conversations.

 

I've been off the grid for awhile, trying to catch up on what's been going on, seems I missed a lot.
@roorancher, you have a way with words that makes me envious. Like I've said once before, I want to be like you when I grow up.
And @SierraHarley , liked your idea if we could start a fight with it, maybe it would go away.

 

Just popped over to your owned HD site.
Didn't bother using my old log-in. But did not see a similar AI announcement.

Thought Silverado/Sierra owners would be easier to work the kinks out on?

In regards to AI being released into the wild. People far, FAR smarter then I have said. We, the U.S. have no choice but to continue it's development. Or be left behind.
My .02? I'm glad I'm old.

If you doubt those who are Neigh Sayers to the dangers of AI.
Remember. The car will never replace the horse. Man will never fly. We will never land on the moon. etc. etc. etc.