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K&N filter lubricating fluid messing up mass airflow sensor?

4.4K views 12 replies 10 participants last post by  BigBlueLB756  
#1 ·
So I have a K&N in the truck (which now has about 85k on it, had it since 10k miles). And I was discussing with a friend about the use of K&N filters, and he had mentioned something about the lubricating fluid (over time) messing up the mass airflow sensor. Now, part of me says that this fluid is applied to the side of the filter where the air comes into the intake, not the "clean" side that goes directly into the intake manifold on the engine.

Is this a valid concern, or has anyone run into this problem or issue with these filters? I know K&N filters are regarded as very good filters that offer better performance and filtration than standard filters. But is it true this fluid can slowly damage the mass airflow sensor (and other parts)? I haven't seen any evidence myself in the 70k I've put on this filter, and I've had these filters in other cars too (but most of them I didn't keep more than 20-30k so this is the longest I've had a K&N in a vehicle).
 
#2 ·
It is a common problem with any of the intakes with reusable filters. Primarily it is isolated to filters that have too much oil on them. How much is too much??? That is the question. Any oil that is let go of by the filter that gets on the MAF will cause problems. The key is to get enough oil in the filter to make it effective but not so much that it won't be able to hold on to all of the oil. It is more of a user error than a product problem. If you have used them before and not had problems, then I would think you know how much is too much. K&N does have a top reputation for intake filters.
 
#3 ·
Yes and No. If oil is applied properly like it sounds like you have, you will never have a problem. If over oiled and installed it is possible to get oil on the MAF. The K&N gets it's better flow by being more porous vs. a paper filter so it's easier to get blow by. FWIW in the past I have used K&N and found my oil to be dirtier than when it ran with paper filters with same mileage change intervals and consistent driving conditions. I shortened my oil change frequency. I have only ran paper in my current truck.
 
#6 ·
I have to agree with Semi.. Been using a K&N drop in with an Airraid setup for years, still have the same filter I got for $30, and I clean it once a year, let it dry, and then lightly respray.

I am confident enough to say, 100% of people who have MAF issues with a oiled filter, simply applied too much oil, plain and simple.

If that wasn't true, oiled filters wouldn't still be sold because no one was using them.. If you do it right, it works better and last forever..
 
#7 ·
I agree with all the guys in support of using oiled air filters. Just wanted add that its not a bad idea because your are using an oiled filter to clean the MAF with approved cleaner once a year (CRC MAF Cleaner)... Just good insurance especially those of us running oiled filters. I've seen rough idles and other minor issues on vehicles with dirty MAFs even if they were using paper filters.
 
#8 ·
Agreed with above. its just like anything else, there is a right and a wrong way of doing it. If you clean and oil the filter properly and allow it to dry like the instructions tell you there is no issue. I have only ever ran oiled filters and never had an issue. However that being said I plan on buying a dry one next to see what the fuss is all about.
 
#11 ·
I have been using K&N filters for the longest time and on all of my families vehicles without an issue. I also usually let the filter stand for an hour or two after applying the oil as to let it "set". I ALSO use a filter charger (a prefilter) on my intake ..

as far as the mass airflow, yea once in a while you put too much and it runs like crap..clean out the MAF and be done with it, K&N filters work great, and oiled filters have been around for years now. go buy yourself a can of Mass Air Flow Cleaner and buy your filter of choice...

no matter what filter you use, from stock to the highest end filter, crap can and will get in and can get on the MAF..
 
#12 ·
Good stuff to know. Yes, I follow the directions religiously on the box (for the K&N filter). I've had about 3 of these in different vehicles and never ran into problems. Yeah, it's possible the person I was talking to put too much oil on (and I think he cleaned his about every 15-20k miles which I think may be a little too often IMO, whereas I do mine about every 30k). And when it does get cleaned, I let it air dry for a day or two (And the OEM filter--which only has about 10k miles of use on it anyway--for that time period in the truck until the K&N is try and ready to go). And yes, I'll probably need to clean the MAF sensor as it's about 85k now and probably should just be done anyways with all the highway driving I do.
 
#13 ·
As I've stated on here many times before, if you take your freshly cleaned and re-oiled (or new) filter, no matter which brand, and wrap it tightly in newspaper that contacts all surfaces and let it remain this way over night, you will have no problem with oil getting on your MAF from your filter.

It's just that simple.