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Time for U-Joints - Confusion Intensifies

10K views 5 replies 4 participants last post by  laszlo462  
#1 ·
Hey All,

I've decided it's time to replace u-joints after hearing some clacking during initial acceleration while hauling a bunch of junk last week. From what I've seen, there are slight differences between the u-joints for Spicer vs AAM driveshafts and/or rear axles. That's where my confusion lies. Being an 02, most forms of part identification are now gone or rusted over. What I was able to tell while farting around under there is, inside the front of the rear driveshaft where it meets the yoke, there is "Spicer" stamped in there, along with some numbers I haven't been able to cross-reference yet. And I've verified it's a steel yoke. Great, I figured, I'll look those up on RockAuto again. Not so fast, there's two different P/Ns for Spicer driveshafts listed there for u-joint compatibility.

So last night I crawl under there again figuring I'll get the info off the stamped tag on the rear axle itself. Foiled again, it's either missing, or under quite the layer of rust. Looking around the differential a bit more, I did find AAM stamped underneath, and a stamped P/N that I have yet to cross-reference (haven't had much time to google-fu that one yet).

So, this all leads me to more confusion, as some of the u-joints are listed to work with Spicer driveshafts (which I have, just unsure which one, 1480 or 1410), and some mention a American 1415 or Spicer 1410 axle. Has anyone dealt with identifying the correct u-joints in a scenario like this before? I'll include some truck info and the numbers I was able to see on the driveshaft and rear diff/axle assembly below.

- 2002 2500HD 8.1L Allison Ext Cab regular bed
- One piece rear driveshaft, stamped inside the front where it meets the yoke with "Spicer" and what looks to be "F238129". There is a second set of numbers stamped above those in there but difficult to see, I really should just drop the driveshaft and take a closer look for the time being.
- Rear axle stamped with "AAM" and "40006189-C"
 
#3 ·
Just measure it. An outside caliper is easiest to get overall width, then measure the cap width. Both of these measurements are difficult to get exact with the joint on the vehicle, but usually within a 10th of an inch will tell you which joint. Other option is to run by a driveline shop and ask them.
 
#4 ·
Steve,

When I did the u-joints on my 2004, I identified my rear end as an AAM 11.5". Mine also has a steel driveline. If I remember right, two potential part numbers were listed. The smaller of the two potential parts is used for the aluminum driveline. The larger of the two potential parts is used with the steel driveline. I don't remember the part number for the smaller of the two, (MOOG 330, maybe?) but I used MOOG 351's on mine. I'd imagine you could cross-reference the MOOG part numbers, and come up with the equivalent Spicer or Dana part number.

Hope this helps,

Jeff
 
#5 ·
Thanks All,

I'll have to dig up the measurement info I found somewhere again, as Walkers said, the differences between the two are pretty damn small. But since I'm babysitting the in-laws' Impala this winter while they enjoy the retirement 5th wheel camping in the southwest this winter, won't be a big deal to drop the driveshaft and actually take some measurements since I'm not DDing the truck until the weather turns to shit. That 30mpg makes feeling like my ass is literally going to touch the road a little more OK :)

Jeff, thanks for that Moog P/N, that very well may be the one I was about 98% sure of initially, as mine is a steel driveshaft as well. Gives me a solid direction to cross-reference against at least.
 
#6 ·
For the sake of updating the post in case anyone else runs into a similar conundrum, mine ended up being the Moog 330s. Ended up finding the part dimensions from Dana http://www2.dana.com/Expert/wc.dll?hvtss~dedsec~2~13~06~ and took a caliper to the ujoint caps, since that's the only difference between the two Spicer driveshaft models.

In other news, when the guy I bought the truck from said "rear-end rebuilt less than 1000 miles ago", I wonder if that meant a swap of the rear-end. Might explain why I was surprised to find an AAM rear end connected to the Spicer driveshaft, and why I needed a couple more bottles of 75w-90 to refill it.