That's on the very ragged edge for a 1500 in my opinion.

Is anything having the RZR in the back will be a help to offset the tongue weight slightly even though it bumps up the total weight.

It will pull it, but controlling it, especially in wind and adverse conditions is another thing, and where the 1500s fall short compared to the HD trucks.

With a properly setup weight distribution hitch it should be alright. Just need to make sure the trailer brakes are working properly and set correctly. Campers and enclosed trailers are vastly different than say an equipment trailer. I would far sooner pull a heavier open trailer behind a 1500 than a big wind sail such as a camper.

What gears does your truck have?

 

3.08

 

3.08 are not good for towing. I'd want 4.10.

And it doesn't matter what you've changed or added to the truck, you cannot legally increase it's towing capacity and/or payload capacity. Those figures are set in stone at the factory, depending upon how the truck was equipped.

 

On my 09 1500 5.3 with the 6speed and 3.42s I found that even with OD off it did a lot of gear hunting between 4th and 5th with a 16' enclosed at 5k approximate weight.
Never had much wind/sway problem on it but its only half (or maybe less) than the area that you will have. I went to 4.11s and the same combo pulled much better.. again not as large as yours though.

Like mentioned that 7k total is on the cusp of what a 1500 should pull imo as well... I think its also important to determine if you will be going over mountain passes or traveling long distances as well.

I wouldn't hesitate as much if you were never going more than an hour or 2 from the house and it was flatter lands and had a properly setup WD hitch.

 

With 3.08 gears your truck isn't even rated for that weight. I believe those are only around 6000 or 7000lbs.

And it would be a miserable experience even if it was rated for it. These trucks are horrible with 3.08s when towing.

 

I had a 30’ camper weighing 6500 loaded and pulled it with my 09 and 13 Silverados. Both 5.3 6 spd 3:42 gears. Could only pull in 4th gear and of course with a WD hitch. I felt that was the limit. Your 3:08’s will have a tough time. Also LT rated tires made a big difference in handling compared to the P rated tires. Some days there were some white knuckles but the colour has come back since upgrading to a 2500 diesel.


2013 Sierra SLE 2500HD CC 4wd Z71 6.6 Duramax

 

Noe-not a good setup. Your gearing is the killer.

 

2WD tow rating is 6,400 pounds, 4x4 is 6,100 pounds with 3.08 gears. I reckon that the razor in the pickup bed will eat up most of your payload capacity before you even hook up the toy hauler.

Your truck with 3.73 gears is rated for 11,000 pounds with either drive type.

How much does the Razor weigh? What is your payload capacity?

 

2WD tow rating is 6,400 pounds, 4x4 is 6,100 pounds with 3.08 gears. I reckon that the razor in the pickup bed will eat up most of your payload capacity before you even hook up the toy hauler.

Your truck with 3.73 gears is rated for 11,000 pounds with either drive type.

How much does the Razor weigh? What is your payload capacity?

I think he meant the rzr in the trailer .... ( it's a toyhauler )

but I agree with you and the others that with 3.08's it won't be a good truck/trailer match-up.

 

The rzr would be in the trailer. It weighs 2000lb and trailer is about 5000lb dry. Oh, and the the truck is a 4x4. Usually 1-4hr trips
This would be the setup->

 

The rzr would be in the trailer. It weighs 2000lb and trailer is about 5000lb dry. Oh, and the the truck is a 4x4. Usually 1-4hr trips

Ok, got it. Well, if you are not running over mountains and slow down it'll do it. I know guys that pull 8 ton boats for short distances with the wagons even.

If this is going to be a regular thing, put 3.73s in it and make sure you have the extra cooling options for the transmission and engine.

Stock size tires? If so, with 3.08 gears you're turning about 1577 rpms @ 70 right? If so, that would be 2014 rpms in 5th and 2723 rpms in 4th gear. Slow down to 65 MPH and the motor will be turning 2,529 in 4th. If you need more RPMs for more torque, slow down a little more and or shift to 3rd gear.

Your main issue towing 1000+ pounds over your rating is going to be cooling. Does your truck have KC4 and KNP?

 

Buy a 2500 truck. That's too much for any 1500, let alone one with 3.08 gears.

 

i mean come on. what’s the worst that can happen. you lose control on a windy bridge, trailer starts swaying badly, and then you plunge to your icy death while your passengers scream bloody murder and, with your last breath, you say to yourself “payload, schmayload!”

i say do it. live a little!

 

i mean come on. what’s the worst that can happen. you lose control on a windy bridge, trailer starts swaying badly, and then you plunge to your icy death while your passengers scream bloody murder and, with your last breath, you say to yourself “payload, schmayload!”

i say do it. live a little!

OR-he runs in to someone like me who will Lawyer up-determine he is over payload and be sued for any assets he has or will ever have.....

 

As mentioned above, get a 2500 that set up is pushing the limits of a 1500. I towed a 2000 20 foot Carson with a couple dirt bikes in it to the desert a lot. It was pushing the truck and limits with just that. I had the tow package with the correct gears and all that. They just are not made for that weight and stopping that weight.

It sucks to hear, but as the saying goes you have to pay to play.

Nice set up though!!

 

Ok then, since a toyhauler is out of the equation, would it be the same issue with a 16x7 enclosed trailer? Probably 6 or 7ft tall. I've seen people turn those into toyhaulers and add bunk beds in the back.

 

I use a 7' wide, 7' tall enclosed for my Polaris General, and while I can squeeze in and out the door, with the machine as far right as I can get, a wider trailer would be nice. I'd say go at least 8' wide. Standard enclosed trailers are 6' tall, and probably won't be tall enough, so get at least 6.5' tall.

My SxS is a 2 seater, so I got a 12' long trailer, and pulled it with a '08 Sierra 1500, 4x4 with 3.73 gears. I didn't have too much trouble with it, with the trailer/SxS weighing around 4000lbs.

Here's a 8.5x16 with a dry weight of 2800lb.
8.5X16 TVR Enclosed Trailer Star Mag W/ Spare | Southern Trailer Depot Sales Douglas, GA

 

Probably fair a lot better with the enclosed trailer and just a couple bunk beds. Shedding a lot of weight that way. Brings you down to 2000-2500 for trailer plus sxs and beds and gear.

 

Another thing to consider....
Hitch weight.
Toy haulers are know for having very heavy hitch weights when compared to other trailers. Most are 15% of the total or more. This is to keep the trailer from swaying when loaded.
Your hitch weight will probably affect the handling and braking.
Good luck with your decision